Changes to Factions / BG

Discussion in 'Server News' started by Jigsaw, Jan 17, 2013.

By Jigsaw on Jan 17, 2013 at 3:01 PM
  1. Jigsaw

    Jigsaw Staff Member Administrator Founder Developer

    These changes are official as of now!

    Read these:


    As some of you are already aware, we have been planning to introduce some changes to the way our Faction system works. Let me start out by saying that the changes that are going to be introduced in this thread will not drastically change game play. If you prefer how Factions worked in the past you are still able to continue on in much of the same manner as you have in the past. The changes we are introducing are aimed at expanding and enhancing the role of Factions on this server and we will do that be rewarding factions and faction members for being successful.

    Why are these changes necessary?

    These changes are not "necessary". The changes that are going to be introduced are only to enhance the enjoyment of the server. We are not trying to change the gaming style of this server, but rather, enhance and build on what we already have. Once you read the proposed changes I feel that the majority will agree these changes make factions much more enjoyable and useful.

    Faction Tiers:

    Factions will now be categorized by a tier system. The tier of a faction corresponds directly to the number of players in a faction. Larger factions will be a higher tier. The higher the tier of your faction the more prestigious the rewards are available to the top faction.

    Tier 0: This is only for Peaceful factions no matter the size.​

    Tier 1: This is for factions with less than 15 members.​

    Tier 2: This is for faction with 15 or more members.​

    The number of tiers may grow at any time based on the needs of the server. For now, we have decided that two tiers (1 & 2) for PVP factions will suffice. Peaceful factions are permanetly considered a tier 0 faction because they have chosen to abstain for PVP, which is the scoring mechanism used for rating a faction.

    If a tier 1 faction gains 15 or more members they will be bumped up to a tier 2 faction effective immediately.

    If a tier 2 faction loses enough members to have less than 15 they will remain as a tier 2 faction until the start of the next month. At the start of the next month they will be dropped to a tier 1 faction.

    Faction Scores:

    Factions will now be scored on what they do while in the BattleGround (BG) world. The only way for a faction to be successful is for them to utilize the Faction world and create a name for their faction in this world.

    The scoring system will work as follows:


    Tier 1 kills Tier 1 = 2 points​
    Tier 1 kills Tier 2 = 4 points​
    Tier 2 kills Tier 1 = 1 point​
    Tier 2 kills Tier 2 = 2 points​


    Tier 1 claims Tier 1 = 6 points​
    Tier 1 claims Tier 2 = 12 points​
    Tier 2 claims Tier 1 = 3 points​
    Tier 2 claims Tier 2 = 6 points​

    The logic behind the scoring is to encourage large factions to fight with each other and not pick on small upcoming factions. The scoring will only apply in the Battleground world and it is handled automatically by a custom plugin. More information on the commands and scoreboard of the plugin when we get closer to the date of implementation.

    All of the score changes that take place will be recorded in a log file. If any faction is believed to have "boosted" their score in any way they will face server punishment to include a possible disbanding if severe enough.


    At the end of the month the highest scoring faction from each tier will be rewarded with in game rewards. The rewards are only applicable to members of the faction who were in the faction at the end of the month. Anyone joining after the month has ended will not be rewarded.

    Tier 1 Rewards:​

    - Access to a small, private, and protected base inside Battlegrounds.​
    - Access to private mob spawners inside the protected base.​
    - Weekly XP potion stockpiles delivered to the protected base.​

    Tier 2 Rewards:​

    - Access to a large, private, and protected fortress inside Battlegrounds.​
    - Access to private mob spawners inside the protected base.​
    - Weekly XP potion stockpiles delivered to the protected base.​
    - Private MobArena in the fortress only for Faction members (with XP drops enabled).

    The rewards listed above will be available for one month or until another faction has a higher score at the end of a month.

    Battleground PVP and Claiming:

    The entire Battleground world will be changed to ignore Peaceful status factions (much like warzones). The only difference between this and a warzone is that you will lose faction power if you are killed, regardless of your faction status. This means peaceful factions will now be able to lose power levels by being killed in the Battlegrounds or by dying accidentally in other worlds (excluding warzones).

    Peaceful factions will also now be able to claim land anywhere they choose, but PVP factions will also be able to claim the land of Peaceful factions if their power is low enough. Battleground was designed to be a PVP world and for that reason Peaceful factions will be held to the same standard as PVP factions in this world. The only thing different about Peaceful and PVP factions (in BG) is that Peaceful factions will not be scored based on kills or claiming as they are a tier 0 faction.

    Keep in mind, this isn't a punishment for Peaceful factions. As a peaceful faction you have chosen to be protected from PVP. If all you want to do is go to Battleground for an XP grinder you only need to claim one piece of land. It would be almost impossible for another faction to claim that chunk of land from a large peaceful faction. As a Peaceful faction you are still allowed to claim 1 chunk in any world that can act as your /f home position.

    Other Changes:

    - Power Loss on death has been decreased from 5.0 – 2.5.​
    - Peaceful territory will now allow PVP in BG.​
    - Peaceful faction members can now be killed anywhere in BG.​
    - Cost to claim Wilderness land was raised from $2,000 - $3,000 (plus the multiplier).​
    - Cost to claim Enemy land bonus was raised from $1,000 - $2,000 (plus normal price and the multiplier).​
    - Any claimed land must be connected to previously claimed land. The only exception is if you are claiming the land of an enemy faction. This is enforced automatically by the Factions plugin.​
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Discussion in 'Server News' started by Jigsaw, Jan 17, 2013.

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    1. deathbybunnie5
      this is a awesome thing to do to bg awesome job jigsaw!
    2. Jigsaw
      If anyone wants to see something added or changed this would be the time to discuss it. Please keep in mind that we have already decided on the basic system as outlined in the original post. We can change small things or improve issues that are brought up, but the basic idea wont change.
    3. Samuri_Bake_Pie
      This is another clarifying question, are points reset to 0 every month, or will points remain the same?
    4. roverttt
      will points be reset if a faction becomes tier 2?
    5. Jigsaw
      Reset every month.
    6. Hunter_Tha_Boss
      I really doubt it, but if you can(I doubt it, if not it's fine, I know this IS meant to be a PvP server)add something for peacefuls, may not have anything to do with this, that'd be cool. I'm not talking a big system, but.. maybe have something like..

      Tier -1 is just a peaceful faction. Tear 0 is a peaceful with 50+ members. Or something like that. I don't care if it was the smalllest reward out there, and if this didn't happen I wouldn't be mad, but I'd like at least a small something for peacefuls.

      Anyway, about the PvP things.. I love these ideas.
    7. roverttt
      peaceful factions are for those who do not wish to pvp, so why would jigs make a pvp event for them. you guys can go do pig races or whatever, but if you want a pvp event, make r join a pvp faction...
    8. TurretBud
      Do we have to keep track of the kills in anyway or does the log file you mentioned do it all for us?
      And also if you are in Tier 1 at the beginning of the month and get kills, then rank up to Tier 2 later on during the same month will the points collected as Tier 1 be counted as Tier 1 points or Tier 2 points?
    9. Hunter_Tha_Boss
      No youuuu rovert. I know that Peacefuls are for not PvP, but they are still there. I was wondering if we could have a slight, if not almost non existant, goal in this new system. I doubt it will happen, but it was worth a shot..

      If Jigsaw was doing the opposite(only peaceful), I know you'd do the same. :p
    10. roverttt
      peacefuls are peaceful, therefore protected from all pvp outside of warzones, including raiding in bg, and yet you think that you deserve all the benefits pvp factions get as well? appreciate what you have as a peaceful faction, and stop asking for more and more. jigs would have to make pvp for peacefuls possible to do an event like this :p just join a pvp faction if you want this so bad.
      andTurretBud he said that points would be reset.
      also Jigsaw is there any way you could have vol build an arena in bg for the event, so that in case people want to have like organized fights, they may?
    11. Samuri_Bake_Pie
      I was thinking the same thing Rov, but in BG there won't be anything called organized fights. I'm just gonna set dates, times and cords to places where if people want to we can all fight, basically a nuketown of BG if you will, where alot of people pvp.
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    12. Vol2112
      roverttt Personally, I think having an arena is a bad idea. The point of the changes are to make BG as a whole, more involved. Having an arena would basically eliminate the rest of the world and like stated, would be the Nuketown of BG. I would like to see the whole world utilized and not just a small portion of it.

      Hunter_Tha_Boss As stated in the main post, becoming peaceful has its downsides. You have to give up some things for the protection and I feel it should stay that way with the new changes. It will really make players think about choosing peaceful or PvP and I think thats great. It will be more exciting to see a peaceful admin against a PvP admin when recruiting. You will now just need to persuade players more than normal. :)
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    13. Hunter_Tha_Boss
      I understand that, and I was just asking for a SLIGHT thing for peacefuls. I know that this is menat for PvP, but just a slight little bit.. I mean, a lot of the community are peaceufl. it is fine to do this, and I love the ideas, but even the tiniest things for peacefuls would be cool. It could be something as small as a little farm or a mobspawner for all I care, I'd just like to see 1 small thing for us.
    14. roverttt
      hunter, bg is mainly for PvP factions, i dont understand why you are in this thread at all, seeing as how peaceful factions could not raid or pvp with other peacefuls. there would be no way to score it unless there was some random warzone in bg. not worth the staffs time just to give peacefuls the benefit of this event.
    15. Hunter_Tha_Boss
      Did I say a PvP event? No. Read, rovertt.. Please. :p

      I suggested that there be something like.. If a peaceful faction had less than x ammount of members, it was a tier -1; if it had over x ammount of members, it's tier 0. This is no PvP event. It is a minor way to give a tiny bit of something to peacefuls in this. I know it most likely won't happen, but it's worth dreaming.
    16. Vol2112
      You cant have your cake and eat it too, Hunter.

      Giving PvP rewards to a NON-PvP player makes no sense.
    17. Hunter_Tha_Boss
      It wasn't PvP rewards. I said he could do anything with it... I said even the smallest reward would be cool. I know this is mostly for PvP facitons, if not entirely(the changes), but adding even the most minute peaceful addition would be nice.

      I never really said that he should add some amazing reward or anything involving PvP.. I mean, it could be $10k as the reward for all I care. I just think it'd be cool to have at least the tiniest thing for peacefuls, even if it was almost nothing.
    18. Vol2112
      Well the thing is... this is a PvP faction and system change. Im not sure how you would even determine how to reward a peaceful faction on a PvP system...
    19. Samuri_Bake_Pie
      You guys get to claim, and be claimed, be killed and kill in BG now. There's your reward :) Thank me later.
    20. Hunter_Tha_Boss
      not much of a reward, but okay. o-o
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